Mighty but small. Another 20-watt all-tube head, the Little Sister is the, um, little sister of Friedman's 40-watt Twin Sister. The Runt has that great clean sound (the only channel switcher of the three) and the DSM is known to many as their favorite Friedman amp. The Gear Page is the leading online community and marketplace for guitars, amps, pedals, effects and associated gear. I bring it back and forth to our practice space because I need it at home. select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. It may not display this or other websites correctly. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. In other words, check my work please!! If your looking to get the same tones in a smaller package I'd say either the PT20 or Runt 20. I would guess the PT to be more different. Hello Coronado, the "sE" is a Reflection Filter there is Acoustic Foam on the inside and the fixture is holding two microphones a SM57 & Ribbon. I had a regular Pink Taco and a Wildwood one. Pink Taco V2. Some Guitar Centers have these in stock for you to try if you can get to one. And the Friedman.well it could have been a Peavey or a solid state amp at that point. The Runt, from what I've heard of pricing, will still be $400-500 more than the minis. England and Wales company registration number 2008885. DSM! In my opinion, unless you need to additional channel or functionality, you're going to get a LOT from the minis and you'll save a ton of cash. But thats easily overcome with practice, and clearly that design choice helped keep the Mini mini. link above. Must work with loud drummer at practise and for live gigs on places like for 50-300 people. Has anyone here tried both? For a closer look at each new unit, cast your gaze below. In a bigger, classier dumpwhere amps would be miked and sound bounced around less like a caffeinated squirrelthe results would have been even better. If this is your first visit, be sure to Both of these 20-watt all-tube mini amp heads now have a few added controls. I know the Runt has the XLR stuff, but I'm curious on your take on which one is better for you. It's available as an all-tube head or 1x12 combo and features a pair of x EL84 power tubes, a trio of 12AX7 preamp tubes, master volume and gain controls plus a three-band EQ. The USA-built cab features tongue and groove Baltic Birch construction, and the combo houses a 16 ohm, 12 Celestion Creamback G12M-65 speaker. Aug 25, 2017. Making use of customized transformers, the head has been designed to sound like a much larger 100-watt EL-34 monster, promising both a tight bottom end and mid-range. I know a regular Dirty Shirley has amazing cleans with just the volume knob. Dave's first production amplifier, the BE-100, is criticality acclaimed and one on the most in demand British high gain meets vintage amps on the market today. Both my Brown Eye and Pink Taco are 240v and work and sound fab! I don't think it sounds like the BE side of the Smallbox. You are using an out of date browser. rocknrollrelic Frets: 39. Get the latest and greatest Guitar news with one of our guitar magazine subscriptions. For more information, visit Friedman (opens in new tab). Friedman. #1. NOasis - Noel Gallagher scotches Oasis reunion tour rumours, Spotify CEO Daniel Ek says that AI could be potentially huge for creativity, Millenium expands Still Cymbals low-volume cymbal line-up with two new colours, Session drummer Jim Keltner recalls John Lennon and George Harrison telling him not to bad-mouth Paul McCartney, Doug McKechnie is the 81-year-old synth pioneer you've never heard of: "The history of electronic music needs a rewrite", GEAR EXPO 2023: The essential new audio interfaces and mixers of 2023. Friedman Pink Taco V2 Guitar Amp Head. All rights reserved. Future Publishing Limited Quay House, The Ambury, Been eying the pink taco amp for a while but just noticed the dirty Shirley mini. The DS has more headroom, but the PT is more different to the Maz, I would have guessed the opposite as the Maz seems to cut like a knife and the DS sounded a little "less middy". A little brighter and edgier and don't have quite the warmth and swirl of the smallbox or BE but its in the ballpark. One can never have too many amps!! Friedman's Pink Taco V2 amp head will set you back $1,499, while the combo version carries a price tag of $1,799. Amp guru Dave Friedmans latest, the Dirty Shirley Mini, is a new addition to that genus. I'm from Brazil and will come to the USA soon, and hope to find all them on a local store to try side by side. The Dirty Shirley Mini and the PT-20 demos seemed more tame, while the JJ Jr. sounded like thrash metal. Cons: But sometimes its not possible, and in this case, I'm trying to choose the best option. Runt is pcb constructed and you get a discount for it. If I understand correctly the PT20 has more gain than the Dirty Shirley Mini? before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. The prices are the same as before, too: the Little Sister head is priced at $1,499, while its combo counterpart costs $1,799. $269.99 Your Preferred Price November 2013. JavaScript is disabled. Its an ultra-compact 9 1/2 x 15 1/2 x 16 1/2. Its mounted upside down, so youve got to tilt the amp on its face to see it and plug in, which would be challenging on a dark stage. Notably, only the latter can be found on the flagship Pink Taco the first two are new appointments. I've played a PT20. Years in the making, perfect the sound and tonal experience in a smaller format. I can wait. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. You must log in or register to reply here. We already know Dave Friedman's modded take on Marshall tones results in some incredible rock toneage so bringing it to more people with the latest Pink Taco Mk II and Little Sister 20-watt tube amps is great news. Friedman Little Sister Head. The Official Marshall Studio Classic Thread Sc20. Budget-Friendly, Baltic Birch Construction. 11 guitarists who shaped Derek Trucks' sound, Revv relaunches its Dynamis Series with US-voiced, Two Notes Torpedo-equipped D25 combo, Watch Dream Theaters Jordan Rudess sing the praises of the amazing LAVA ME 3 acoustic-electric guitar, Line 6 adds Dumble-style tones in free Helix firmware update sure to please fans of John Mayer, Joe Bonamassa and David Gilmour, Eric Andrs advice for aspiring upright bass players: Dont play it. #55. You are using an out of date browser. Re: Friedman Dirty Shirley Mini VS Pink Taco. Both sounds great, but I only played the PT without the gain switch. The Gear Page is the leading online community and marketplace for guitars, amps, pedals, effects and associated gear. Nice amp, but I was disappointed, nothing special IMO. I viewed some youtube comparisons and in one of them the breakup of the PT seemed a bit fizzier than the DS. Angus tone is closer to the DS, Slash (JCM800 . Theyre just above the underside of that panel, but easily accessible. Friedman's Pink Taco V2 amp head will set you back $1,499, while the combo version carries a price tag of $1,799. Re: Friedman schematics. Its a well-built, great sounding, and compact alternative to 1x12 combos, with a big, flexible voice for its small size, and all the right bones for mean classic tones. The Mini is comparatively bantamweightjust 30 pounds and pumping 20 watts of output through a 10", 25-watt Celestion Greenback. Said to supply the BE-100s classic Friedman sound in a small, compact and lightweight package, the Pink Taco V2 head is according to the company a 20-watt EL84 single-channel fire breather, with a particular sonic penchant for blues, classic rock and metal. This is also an amp that should clean up well with your guitar's volume control. Pros: Some of the add-ons on this site are powered by. Whole Lotta Shirley Kind of like the Marshall SV-20 and SC-20, maybe? I am really wanting a PT and a Dirty Shirley.I wanna runem togther at the same time! They are here to help. Back at the homestead after the gig, I pulled three guitars: a modern Zuzu with coil-tapping, an early-70s Fender Strat with the requisite single-coils, and an early-90s Les Paul Classic. The Saturation circuit allows for more of an aggressive metal tone. This page was generated at 08:16 PM. Just my 2 cents, my opinion, take it for what it's worth. Friedman BE-Mini Guitar Amp Head. All three of those settings are loud! All rights reserved. size. I have a Smallbox and a DSM. The Shirley is no retiring kid sister. It'll have more headroom too, and with 2 6L6's, the cleans may eliminate your need for another amp. It may not display this or other websites correctly. With the Dirty Shirley Mini, it was impossible to get a bad tone, and the extreme EQ settings inspired ideas for studio sounds. An 'ultra-transparent series FX loop' welcomes your time-based effects pedals to the party and there's 4, 8 and 16 ohm jacks. Friedman Runt 20 Combo Friedman Mini Dirty Shirley Combo Friedman Small Box 1x12 Combo TAD Tube Kit - Friedman Brown Eye 100 BE-100 $ 228.00; The Mini feels as if it could take a plunge at a load-in and still start right up (at least after the rush of horror from dropping a $1,799 amp faded). Runt 20 is a BE channel and a simple clean with a 20 watt power section. And theres a lot of mojo in that preamp, thanks to a 3-way gain-structure toggle switch. #2. Playing a rough-and-tumble gig in a small room with no amp miking, the Mini blasted along with my trio loud and clear, and since the joint was all concrete and glass, the amps absence of reverb was irrelevant. Both USA-made models offer head and and combo options. L *SOLD* FRIEDMAN Pink Taco PT-20 MINT. Bath In terms of tone, the Little Sister units have been set up to harness sparkling cleans and vintage crunch, with the amps promising to deliver everything from blues and rock to country just by adjusting its Gain, Master and switch controls. Friedman Little Sister Perhaps it's in the future. The Taco has such an immediacy to the attack. Amped-up iterations of the Mini Dirty Shirley and BE-100-inspired Pink Taco feature two EL84 power tubes, a trio of 12AX7 preamp tubes and a host of new voices. Despite all that goodness, the lil Shirleys 10" speaker does sound a tad compressed to my 12"-speaker-conditioned ears, so I couldnt resist plugging the Minis power section into a Sam Hill custom pine cabinet loaded with a 50-watt 12" Eminence. These 3 guitar beauties from Friedman have a lot in common, not only names or visual appearance i.e. I'm gonna grab a Friedman 20 Watter and I like both of these amps(not really sold on the Runt). I've seen a few pictures out on the interwebs of someone reverse engineering the Dirty . For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Easy to use. I have cranked both the Mini Shirley and Pink Taco with the DS cab and the PT cab. Brandon Ellis laid down the gauntlet to Jacksons Master Builders with this 27-fret Gold Crackle Kelly is this one of the most challenging custom builds ever made? The panel for the returns and speaker outs is a bit awkward. Friedman. If you're a tech with access, you often sign agreements you'll only use them for repair work etc. Friedman Runt 20 and Runt 50 - A/B Test and full review, WTS: Friedman Pink Taco PT-20 20 watt amp head, SOLD - Friedman PT-20 Pink Taco - V1 with gain structure switch - SOLD, are Gibson Les Pauls mainly for collectors? Heres how it works. FriedmanLittle Sister Combo $1,799.99, FriedmanPink Taco V2 Head $1,499.99 If your looking to get the same tones in a smaller package I'd say either the PT20 or Runt 20. I missed the standby function when switching instruments, but my tuner pedal did the job amiably. The Pink Taco in the lowest gain setting I would say is more in the ballpark of the Studio Vintage than the Mini Dirty Shirley. So the smaller version might have that, too. All that said. DSM almost seems to have more clarity with a bit of low-end girth and punchy mids, just classic rock and blues tones for days. Friedman Dirty Shirley 1X12 Cab. Yeah I'd like to see a 2 channel DSM. Both amps way over priced IMO. Tech experts from Seymour Duncan are regularly on this forum, and are clearly labeled as employees of Seymour Duncan. The DSM has many tones available and AC/DC is most definitely one of them. It's all about vintage classic rock tones, with less of the high-gain action of the Taco. To my ears, the results sounded a little more harmonically rich and lush. The combo, meanwhile, is practically identical the same interior appointments and control set make the cut though makes use of a Celestion 16 Ohm 12 G12M-65 Creamback speaker. I've got 60 guitarsbut 49 trumpets is justINSANITY! That amp is such a tone monster, I'd always feel like the mini was a waste of money. $. The 3-dial EQ is no-frills, but quite responsive. We may earn a commission on any affiliated purchases. The power switch is a simple on/off with no standby. Black. There's a couple good Youtube videos of the PT vs DSM on Youtube. $339.99 Your Preferred Price Friedman. Before MusicRadar I worked on guitar magazines for 15 years, including Editor of Total Guitar. All are welcome, from seasoned pros to absolute beginners. The Mini is comparatively bantamweightjust 30 pounds and pumping 20 watts of output through a 10", 25-watt Celestion Greenback. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Sturdy. I've currently set aside any pipe dreams of getting anywhere with my own songs and I am enjoying playing covers in function bands. 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Control-wise, its straightforward a three-band EQ lines up alongside Master and Gain parameters, with the three toggle switches serving as Saturation, Fat and S (Gain Structure) switches. Again, the combo differs only with the appointment of a Celestion 16 Ohm 12 G12M-65 Creamback speaker. England and Wales company registration number 2008885. But, to make that comparison I would say the Mini DS is much more friendly to quiet environments than a Z (which I would say the opposite of). There I said it haha. The Verdict JavaScript is disabled. For what you stated the "Mini DS" would cover best (little closer to Plexi) also the Runt (closer to JCM800) can do the same but with a bit more gain. If you haven't checked them out, you should. Thank you for reading 5 articles this month*, US pricing $3.99 per month or $39.00 per year, UK pricing 2.99 per month or 29.00 per year, Europe pricing 3.49 per month or 34.00 per year, *Read 5 free articles per month without a subscription. I am somewhat intrigued by the PT but would only buy a used one when the price comes down. The Little Sister and Pink Taco Mk II are both available in head and combo models. Generally it is quite hard, if not near impossible to get schematics on current run amps. Flip the toggle downwards, with the master and the gain in the same spot, and youre deep in Marshallville, with opulently ripe mids and a profile that reminded me of Ritchie Blackmores epic early-70s sound. From the Pete Thorn video above it's clearly great for harmonically rich Eddie Van Halen tones. Friedman's definitely have that British Marshall sound and definitely a nice twangy clean channel as well, definitely more mid-range sound wise. I own a BE, Dirty Shirley 40, Dirty Shirley Mini and incoming Smallbox. Should I sell the 20 for an Orange Tiny Terror? Friedman Amplification Pink Taco Guitar Amplifier Head Features: Versatile 20-watt, 1-channel all-tube amplifier with British voicing. How does Friedman BE 100's little brother PINK TACO compares to Dirty Shirley's little sister MINI DIRTY SHIRLEY?Thanks to MusiX for the loan of these fantas. Didn't bond with it. Playing a rough-and-tumble gig in a small room with no amp miking, the Mini blasted along with my trio loud and clear . What are you waiting for. This may help you decide. Or . For what you stated the "Mini DS" would cover best (little closer to Plexi) also the Runt (closer to JCM800) can do the same but with a bit more gain. When Nashville got one of the first DSM amps in, I spend hours AB'ing both PT20 and the then new DSM. The Pink Taco is the sibling to Friedman's first production amp the BE-100. SOLD - Friedman PT-20 Pink Taco - V1 with gain structure switch - SOLD, I own DSL20 and 40cr. . From my experience still owning a BE100 and was looking for the best Friedman 20 watter that had more open classic tone and an amp I can get a killer blues and rock tones out of, I went with the Dirty Shirley Mini. I can't imagine you'd need another Fender along with that. With pedals, the lowest gain setting was, as expected, ideal. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Its also worth noting the two EL84 power tubes and three 12AX7 preamp tubes, as well as the ultra-transparent series FX loop. Friedman Amplification Dirty Shirley Minifriedmanamplification.com. check out the FAQ by clicking the Damn, the agony of choice continues. I haven't played a Maz in a dozen years though, at only loud house volumes, and I don't have a very good memory, sorry. The toggle switches are different, though, with both the head and combo flashing an S-Switch (Gain Structure) and B-Switch (Bright/Tight). Ed A; Feb 17, 2022; DSM is more versatile and has better bass response from my experience. You may have to register The PT is tight. All sounded fully and correctly voiced via the Dirty Shirley Minis Celestion, although the power, tonal depth, and sustain the amp exhibited with humbuckers was truly a joy. Friedman Dirty Shirley Overdrive Pedal. And the Mini sounded really strong in my home practice space. Mar 6, 2015. How cool is it to be able to add a 12" extension cab to the Mini? Also, as expected, things were quieter when my pedalboard was plugged into the effects loop rather than straight into the front end. Those Wildwoods are impossible to find. The only pedal that performed differently in the loop was my OD, which needed a bit more output for unity. The Dirty Shirley Mini rocks! How about a Scumback Black back 65? Just listen to Pete Thorn's demo of the Pink Taco 20-watt head "no pedal required" indeed! The Pink Taco V2 amp head is the latest iteration of the Pink Taco, which in turn was inspired by Friedmans first production amplifier, the critically acclaimed BE-100. Friedman Announces the BE-Mini - Premier Guitar , Friedman Releases Pink Taco V2 Heads & Combos - Premier Guitar , First Look: Dunlop Cry Baby Daredevil Fuzz Wah, Dunlop and Daredevil Pedals Collab on Cry Baby Daredevil Fuzz Wah, Slave to Sirens: Lebanons First All-Female Thrash-Metal Band. All times are GMT-7. JavaScript is disabled. OK, I know a little bit about both amps and this is what I can tell you. Afraid I can't get to Wildwood. Any guitarist who has lugged around 4x12s, Super Reverbs, or other heavy-ass combos and stacks in search of big, meaty tones can appreciate the trend toward small amps that snarl. WTS: Friedman Pink Taco PT-20 20 watt amp head. 1) The price difference is because the Runts are PCB while the DSM and PT are hand wired. Many of the above appointments can be found here, such as the two EL84 power tubes and three 12AX7 preamp tubes, as well as a fairly straightforward control set comprising Bass, Middle, Treble, Master and Gain parameters. Therefore, it may be a bit of a stretch. If you are looking for AFD / ACDC the DSM has that in spades. Ozzy Osbourne names his dream supergroup and it features three guitarists, Joe Bonamassa plays AC/DCs Back in Black like youve never heard it before in this soulful rhythm n blues reimagining, The Lowlist: INXS's Kick was the sound of a rock band taking on modern technology. No reverb, no line out, not even a standby switch. Variety of classic tones via three gain stages. Although quick research states assembled in USA which is kind of confusing. Messages. FRIEDMAN20wMINI DIRTY SHIRLEY 20PT-20 . PS, the Pink Taco is 1233 USD and the Suhr Badger 30 is 1490 USD. https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/2536A. #6. I am thinking of getting a DS mini and wanted to ask which celestion gels best with this head? With a pair of EL84 power tubes and three 12AX7s pushing the preamp section, the Minis goal is clearly British-flavored classic rock tones. You are using an out of date browser. Matt is a Staff Writer, writing for Guitar World, Guitarist and Total Guitar. In all its annoying bright honking spongy goodness. No standby. A little brighter and edgier and don't have quite the warmth and swirl of the smallbox or BE but its . 3-position gain structure switch for toggling between modern and vintage tones. Re: Friedman Dirty Shirley Mini VS Pink Taco Personally, I'd hold out for a regular Dirty Shirley head and 212 cab. I can never have enough gain. The low end of the Mini Shirley seems to be a little pickier about speakers than the Pink Taco. I recommend the Creamback over the Greenback for the mini Shirley, but other way around for the Pink Taco. tone forum. It's all about vintage classic rock tones, with less of the high-gain action of the Taco. Same exact price. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I would say the Shirley benefits from a lower wattage speaker, probably like 15 to 30 watts as it seems to give up the good dirt as lower volume than the Pink Taco. Prince thought so, Watch Joe Bonamassa sit in with Scary Pockets and Joanna Jones for a funkified cover of Back In Black, Taylor and Original Grain Watches team up for some very classy wrist candy incorporating the high-end acoustic brands Urban Ironbark. . The MkII is the latest version of that single-channel rock machine with a single gain and added switches to flexibility. The ultimate beginner's guide. Try before you buy or make sure you can get a refund. Dial in your sound with the 3-band EQ. I've had two tacos and two runts(50 and now a 20). (or not gigging). I love my DSM. Rear panel a bit hard to access. WTF! Since I play so may different styles of music, which of the two you think will also go more modern rock, punk and not metal, but closer to it, with a TS in front? How does Friedman BE 100's little brother PINK TACO compares to Dirty Shirley's little sister MINI DIRTY SHIRLEY?Thanks to MusiX for the loan of these fantastic amps: Pink taco: http://bit.ly/3limsDU Mini Dirty Shirley: http://bit.ly/38INnUhhttps://www.musix.com/ch/en/Use my affiliate link to get a 15% discount from Bogren Digital IR packs: https://bogrendigital.com/?ref=Z9Abn2UFq4hhDSome of my music (Spotify):- Solo stuff: http://spoti.fi/2JF1FvL- Cyhra: http://spoti.fi/3obAbNt- Red Wolf: http://spoti.fi/3pO6Zwr- Godsplague: http://spoti.fi/2X8POckYou can follow me also on:https://www.facebook.com/eugeofficial/https://www.instagram.com/Euge230V/https://twitter.com/Euge230VCYHRA: http://cyhra.com/Timecodes:- Intro: 0:00- The Song: 0:23- Noodling with both amps | EVH Frankenstrat: 2:32- General info: 4:11- Comparing the amps | EVH Frankenstrat: 6:00- The gear \u0026 signal chain: 10:23- Noodling with both amps | ESP Eclipse: 11:52- The back panels: 13:54- Conclusion: 14:06- How loud they actually are: 14:58#EugeValovirta #Friedman #PinkTacoMiniDirtyShirley No reverb. But it was more fun to flick the gain stages around, roll off all the mids while cranking the treble and bass to 10, or to turn both those dials to zero and the mids to 10, or play with the treble on 10 and the bass/mids off, or just bass. It's so hard to tell on youtube though. the PT can do much of the same as the two but it can also do "Hair Metal" (General Metal) Closer to a Modified JCM800 w/more gain. 2,111. Boutique guitar amp builder Friedman has unveiled the latest additions to its amp head and combo catalogs: the Pink Taco V2 and Little Sister. Your Preferred Price Friedman. BA1 1UA. As a subscriber enjoy big savings off the shop price! But, both are amazing, IMO. MusicRadar is part of Future plc, an international media group and leading digital publisher. Nov 20, 2020. The PT is a good amp, but as others stated, you can try to get Friedman to mod it more in the future also. 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For years I've used mic's placed in front of the speaker (which is still a good format) and I was looking to improve recording tones in my home studio, it's not as plush and refined as a pro studio but I can get really great results, which I also do clients material that send me wav.files then load them to my DAW. I dont want to derail the OPs thread, but I did have questions about these amps since there seems to be a lot of Friedman experience here. Visit our corporate site (opens in new tab). Help needed verifying plate dissipation/Cathode resistor value for 6V6. You are using an out of date browser. My Les Paul is the leading online community and marketplace for Les Paul guitar fans. JavaScript is disabled. They're loud man. lwk5150; Jul 8, 2017; Member Classifieds; Replies 2 Views 481. Bath JavaScript is disabled. The Pink Taco came out at $1499 and the cab was $599 but both are well worth the money. I have both, and love both, can't go wrong. An S-Switch alters the gain structure between clean, mid-gain and high-gain settings with a Saturation Switch and Fat Switch further bolstering the versatility. If you want some cleans and plenty of gain that covers blues to even metal with the bass off and gain dimed, the DS Mini would be the obvious choice, cause it can be dialed in for most all tones.
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