What is your opinion was triangulation or not? Who would commit such a savage crime Read allWhen Cathy Torrez never came home after work, her family feared the worst. but we've been helping millions of renters get into 5g for years and also 6g. far from it. But mounting evidence against her proved it otherwise. >> and, sure enough, that appeared to be what ken had just given them. this journey has more to do with a personal hell than any paradise. We need to move forward. and then, in the late 19 eighties, shirlene finally found real happiness, when she met and married a man named kenneth wakisaka. i could never have seen this coming. that was a hot button. One of Jaime's minders was a married middle-aged mother by the name of Patty Presba. When Cathy Torrez never came home after work, her family feared the worst. a whole new theory called murder by omission. Why not just do it again? Link copied. i have, apologized i don't know how many times to the girls because of my error. but the police officer told me one cup of coffee won't burn both those legs like that. i have yelled, at shirlene. she asked them to promise her something. I think you're going to be blown away by the life. Listen as these daughters-turned-detectives try to solve the mystery surrounding their mother's death. Wiseguy is an American crime drama television series that aired on CBS from September 16, 1987, to December 8, 1990, for a total of 75 episodes over four seasons. According to KHON, the grand jury requested to hear from. then a chance meeting would, turn this case upside down. Even though, surely it's daughter's quest to prove you guilty goes on his very troubled by it? >> remember, in the official emt report, it was ken who said shirlene didn't need to go to the hospital. It was a hot button, and wasn't something that you wanted to bring up unless you are ready for the fight, when surely left two girls, Father Tammy, refuse to go with her. now in Hawaii at their mother's bed in the IC you Tammy and Tiffany, vowed to find out exactly what happened to their mother. >> hello. he last decade and we said mom. and she spilled her cup of coffee. >> he said i did not kill my wife, i did not kill my wife. he was sitting up in bed beside his wife reading every words at Cannes trial and suddenly there it was eureka- and I get to the final argument and the prosecutor makes a direct comment on Mr Walker August. Cans defends a journey now given accused the police and prosecutors of jumping to the wrong conclusions, rust, the judgment against can that ligature mark has been made by the two that lay on her neck. i'm andrea canning. surely in a van gandhi was popular and unpredictable, long before she had her little girls, tammy and tiffany. i miss her very much. Oh my gosh. He settled. he said shirlene told him she took pills and seemed suicidal. How this case went to the hospital, that's what Tiffany and tat we were thinking, that's what the police department was thinking and yet, as oil sorrow began, to dig deeper you found that can talked about strangulation. >> burned, more burned than you get laying out in the sun all day. the many complex by a golf course on the Pacific, is very like a bug. [whispered] air wick. According to KHON, the grand jury requested to hear from Ken and Shirlenes tenant (who rented a spare room in their condo) but the prosecutor never subpoenaed him as a witness. You would agree with that. mucinex dm relieves wet and dry coughs. Could you have believed that you would be sitting here in this hotel room talking about this subject in the year? except -- coincidence is such a strange and powerful thing, isn't it? you know, most people would just leave it to a police department to do the investigating. his focus was not on his wife. For further reading, see Inquisitr articles about two other Dateline NBC cases involving Marc Despain and Savanna Todd. so, when shirlene died? Two sisters determined to fulfill a promise investigate the mystery surrounding their mother's death. The trial lawyer said nothing. He believed there. marjorie collier managed the condominium, complex where shirlene and ken lived. and then at 2 pm, can called 9-1-1. they rushed her to the emergency room, did what they could. it was april 5th. >> ken got out on bail, but was still under indictment for murder, and they all waited for. >> could their mom help them solve her own mystery? Perhaps it is pretty crazy. at the center of it is a woman named shirlene van gundy. she loved to seeing. When the daughters visited Shirlene in Hawaii, Shirlene asked them to make a promise: If anything happens to me, promise me youll investigate. visit kidneyalert.com! i don't just play someone brainy on tv - i'm an actual neuroscientist. >> as if they'd been hidden there or what? You soccer went on trial for murder. The jury's verdictsendsKen Wakisaka to prison,butwith a new attorney, Kens conviction comes under question.May 3, 2014. >> and nobody stood up and said, "i object, your honor? " She was a big head was alone crew like I was the only. they tore open the envelope and inside? this is how i got it, i got it, i got it. Here they were again two sisters on a holiday in Paris, or so the other vacation is most have assumed, you're in America's bed, Pacific Garden in the last resort, near Honolulu, It has more to do with a personal hell and any paradise that and a long ago promise to their mother. >> they'd promised, of course. and unlike some cybersecurity options, this helps protect every connected device. it's me again. Before the official cause of his wife's death was established, multiple witnesses claimed that Wakisaka made unprompted comments, stating that he did not choke her. there's always a but. mother that we investigate. The Promise: With Lester Holt, Josh Mankiewicz. It was alleged that she murdered Ken Juedes to collect an estimated amount of $1 million from life insurance policies. she did say she wanted to die in peace. So when Chilean died, what I thought, slave was that it was another ploy and shit. she played with me. You. This is not strangulation case. here is keith morrison with the vow. and that's where they were when ken gave consent to take shirlene off life support and she died. >> yes. they've done nothing. dateline the promise, part 4. san diego noise ordinance times; About Us. yes, it is. The investigation, which started about 16 years ago, went through the possibilities of multiple potential suspects, before focusing on the victim's wife as the primary and sole person-of-interest. >> tiffany, especially, makes the trip to hawaii repeatedly, and kids and husband know they're on their own whenever she rolls out the suitcase stuffed with case papers. responsibility for were instantly instantly, the pain, the pain that he felt because he he worked so hard. >> he turned to me and he said, you know, "my cell mate, who's out in the rec yard right now, doesn't belong here. but they would be wrong. Schulz-Juedes was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. it was 6 am there. It's, left for Hawaii, a new life with a new husband but. and we just needed to try again. Well, he stayed a Chileans bedside. She would lead to saying she played with, me she was sorry. She didn't like it, Marjorie was on the scene April. Ninety, a truly told the girls that children can were firing, midnight, United Energy called very. It was ultimately revealed that the wife possessed a similar weapon, which was given to her as a present by her husband. >> yeah, like for her to die. We get back, We are her voice, dramatic problems. Her Tiffany filled a suitcase with documents that some prosecutor might find useful, hold it back and forth the prosecution beating pushing for action for years. is trying to do with that statement was actually transition from. >> she said, promised me that if anything ever happens to me, you will investigate. >> and what i found again stunned me. 12 hours?! If there will be, I don't think you can fault these two women, for how they feel about the loss of their mother. i said, "so she's there by herself? >> so, how did that line come out? >> tiffany filled a suitcase with documents that some prosecutor might find useful, hauled it back and forth to prosecution meetings, pushing for action for years. and when cambra. In fact, said the prosecutor. We were also informed by spouse. >> to do what? must have been made by the tube that lay on her neck while she was on life. >> -- building, yeah. a change. and sure enough -- >> in the backyard? >> the case has dogged detective, nick cambra, too. >> so it was often tammy, and on her mother who took on the responsible rule with her sister tiffany, which was the other side of her manic exuberance. in that case, marjorie believed, shirlene was willing to hurt herself just to frame marjorie. An intensive search ended after her car was found, with her body in the trunk. >> i haven't choked her. >> dismissed. He thought maybe a few months back in court. The also. I guess I don't want to say it, but she did say took me though I could die. There is more than, anticipating a new trial, defense attorney, Edmunds, hired renown, forensic pathologist, Michael Button and asked him. >> this was viewed as an overdose. Oh my gosh, I never thought of that. the guilty verdict the daughters so desperately wanted, pulled out from under them just like that. it's a curious story the way, you encountered this case, hmm? >> our mother was a incredibly beautiful soul. Most people would just leave it to the police department to do the investigating, not Youtube now and they find a possible clue from their mother herself just that, if any, what ever happened to me. That theory? >> and suddenly the sisters truly believed their mom was sending secret clues that almost screamed "open in case of death. " >> me, too. >> what i thought, honestly, was that it was another ploy, and she had tried to make it look as if he was trying to kill her, and she went too far and accidentally killed herself. >> the daughters thought they'd made good on their promise to find justice for their mother if anything happened to her when shirlene's husband was convicted in 2002 of murder by strangulation. mid 1999, she called, very upset. the result took months but, sure enough, cause of death, said the medical examiner, brain damage due to ligature strangulation. AK just looking and China in the back yard, underneath the Bush, as if it had been hidden there, what s in their minds, only one person could have hidden can later as Tiffany it, We were about to drive away from the content having thrown in the back seat a sealed envelope. >> i'm positive. Therefore it has to be there for you can't quit. he also heard from medical personnel. what she had was charisma. it was not something you wanted to bring up, unless you were ready for a fight. So your memory, that's pretty clear and positive when you heard that KEN was accused of strangling her. They had plenty of time to reflect on what she said. and that would be it, end of story. and wakey, wakey apartments-dot-com. From a hidden journal and a secret recording,the sistersbelieve they understand the circumstances surrounding their mothers death. no idea how long that journey will be. >> yes. >> now, the girls felt they had to move very fast, while, shirlene was on life support. dateline continues. yours, your employees' and even your customers'. he said absolutely not. i think your mother had a word, didn't she, that she liked. plus for a limited time, ask how to get a $500 prepaid card when you upgrade. we need to re-charge. and i said, "oh, okay. " >> he was not murdered by strangulation, it was domestic violence and it's. try to make it look as if he was trying to kill her and she went too far in accidently killed herself. I did because every time I'm not there somewhere, Als has to cover all the things that I normally do differently, especially it makes a trip to Hawaii repeatedly, She rose out the suitcase stuffed with case yeah, that's personnel, Those moments for much of anything else. and suddenly, there it was. >> instantly, instantly. She has maintained her innocence throughout the years, with her defense coming up with alternative narratives about who killed her husband, a father-of-four. She was alive, they decided they have the legal right to run. I could apply that in season two. How would they make the case against can to persuade the state to start from scratch? It is an honour of my mother and I don't care if labelled obsession are crazy, she deserves it. What. An intensive search ended after her car was found, with her body in the trunk. she said please choke me. Mom was sending secret clues almost screamed open in case of death attending this, the mystery. >> how did he react? >> eight long hours past. Defense attorney Edmunds again went to court and again he one could tell me from a practical point of view. and she said, "if anything ever is to happen to me, i want you to ask ken for your baby pictures. >> but worry, they did. I got the coffin ban, I sat on the prosecutor and he sat the very been overturn overturn the guilty verdict, a daughter so desperately wanted. Tommy returned to Hawaii, where they marked a painful anniversary fourteen years since their mother. I committed to memory, None of that line come out. i couldn't believe it. >> shirlene's daughters were horrified. was there strangulation or not? " see if you can save by switching today. new, surely well didn't like it at all in vain. >> the prosecution announced in court in 2010 it was abandoning the strangulation theory. thank you for watching. For an optimal experience visit our site on another browser. IE 11 is not supported. They all waited for the new trial, then, once again, John Edmunds put on his reading glasses and what I found again. I'm Lester halt thanks for joining us. well, just her speculation, of course. yes, please! >> call it a promise, a quest, an obsession. EAST LYME, Conn. ( WFSB /Gray News) - Police in Connecticut have charged a couple for allegedly luring a person to their home under the premise of sexual favors before robbing them. how'd it seem to be going? >> did you write your closing argument? that, and a long ago promise to, their mother. >> is he living under a cloud? >> did he say how? >> so edmunds agreed to at least have a look at the record. >> i said i am not going, i cannot leave, i cannot leave my dad. and her whole life, she had never felt so bright and, thoroughly, and utterly embraced by someone who loved her just the way she was. so tell me, from a practical point of view, what did those victories mean for ken? Watch Lauren's Promise (Season 2021, Episode 12821) of Dateline or get episode details on NBC.com >> she said, i have never been with a man who really got me, and he gets me. where the jury find can walk you a guilty of murdering the second degree, as it was amazing girl was. Didn't did this case, it wasn't a minor witness either said Edmunds, but someone in a position to know a great deal about what really happened. i would not remember anything we talked about. I did poor police reports of can can have been around. The case was subsequently sent back to the state Circuit Court for a new trial after the high court vacated his conviction for second-degree murder on October 23. now sure leads has can was on trial for her murder. how do you process all of it? it was amazing. That's all for now. but these are prosecution experts. >> yes. >> i don't think that they provided all the information that the expert needed in order to make that determination. What are you seeing heartbreaking? defense attorney edmunds again went to court, and again won. see a path forward with actions and treatments that may help your eyes and protect against vision loss. that's right, diabetic retinopathy is a leading cause of blindness for adults in the u.s. but even though you can't see it, there is something you can do about it. what's your understanding of what murder by omission is? >> it haunts me. Although the Supreme Court alleged that Lawler "was intimately familiar with Shirlene's emotional problems," Milks argued that Lawler was neither a psychiatrist nor a psychologist. one plan they came up with together? >> thing is, it's an iron-clad rule. >> i love her. Your login session has expired. next to look at the case, prosecutor dan oyasato, who found ken's remarks about strangulation very disturbing. >> nobody stood up and said, "i object, your honor. " We made a promise made a promise to our mom. >> she used to tell me that ken was the complete opposite of her, that he was very quiet, and he would never argue with her or get into a fight with her. >> in a panic, tammy called tiffany to tell her, and still frantic, tammy then called the honolulu police department. Ask for your baby pictures. On April 9, 2000, something did happen. [laughs] i love you! (brad) how does apartments-dot-com help more renters get into new homes than any other site? as everybody knows, is full of surprises. i'm, like, "pardon, hi. There are two p m, can called nine one one there, asked her to the emergency room did what they could. and then he started -- he went on to the next day and how he tried to prevent her from dying. really be at peace. This is an unofficial transcript meant for reference. we need to move forward. she did say she wanted to die in peace. Originally aired on NBC on May 2, 2014. He would know if he doesn't tell us we. >> >> here they were again, two sisters on a holiday in paradise, were so many other vacationers must have assumed, in the pacific garden, in the lush resort near honolulu. >> now, in hawaii, at their mother's bed in the icu, tammie and tiffany vowed to find out what exactly happened to their mother. months before surely in van gandhi daily. >> ken? Herself. the defense provided us an excerpt of detective cambra's interview with the witness. Your login session has expired. She said that yeah, the police believe me. >> though the grand jury didn't hear from the roommate, detective nick cambra did. From a hidden journal and a secret recording,the sistersbelieve they understand the circumstances surrounding their mothers death. >> yeah. Friday's upcoming episode of NBC Dateline will delve into Kenneth/Ken Juedes' 2006 shooting murder case. >> what could be a revealing clue from their mom, and a. >> the most serious offense is commenting on the failure to take the witness stand. Tammy activity was it there. for a great low rate, and nearly 60 years of quality coverage make the right call - and go with the general. Mr Robot Postpones Season Finale Following Virginia Shooting, 2012-2023, 2paragraphs Productions, LLC. what did you think when they just dropped that theory? being so half was do for me- was so far away on the mainland in a panic trying to reach her mother, calling repeatedly can finally answer the phone, here. unlike ordinary memory supplements, neuriva plus fuels six key indicators of brain performance. child in the world like I was her full focus and attention. i said, "excuse me. " I got a job here and moved her to this. well, who does that? so you can stay ahead. Yes, it suddenly their sisters, true. The Dateline Saturday Night Mystery episode 'The Promise' investigates the 1994 disappearance and murder of Cathy Torrez. >> i write an outline. Nothing more can call Tammy from the hospital. we need to go back to trial. We are meeting people one after the next who have made profound changes. >> it seemed to start to change in 1998. >> they agreed that shirlene wasn't strangled.